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	<title>Comments on: Serving the social graph and keeping the lights on: What Facebook and MySpace have in common with the power company</title>
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		<title>By: Hayes</title>
		<link>http://hayesdavis.net/2008/05/21/serving-the-social-graph-and-keeping-the-lights-on-what-facebook-and-myspace-have-in-common-with-the-power-company/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kevinc: Point taken re: being sold things. However, it depends on how you define &quot;additional value&quot;. People have obviously taken to the idea that they can have worthwhile software-mediated interactions with a network of friends. The problem is that up until now, those interactions have been defined largely by the same companies that are providing the underlying social data. We&#039;re pretty much in a stage of &quot;renting the phone from AT&amp;T&quot; when it comes to social networking. I think by default with data portability, these networks increasingly become the utility and we &quot;buy the phone&quot; (or modem, or computer) from someone else. When any endpoint is allowed to connect into these networks, it&#039;s hard to say what sort of value will follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kevinc: Point taken re: being sold things. However, it depends on how you define &#8220;additional value&#8221;. People have obviously taken to the idea that they can have worthwhile software-mediated interactions with a network of friends. The problem is that up until now, those interactions have been defined largely by the same companies that are providing the underlying social data. We&#8217;re pretty much in a stage of &#8220;renting the phone from AT&#038;T&#8221; when it comes to social networking. I think by default with data portability, these networks increasingly become the utility and we &#8220;buy the phone&#8221; (or modem, or computer) from someone else. When any endpoint is allowed to connect into these networks, it&#8217;s hard to say what sort of value will follow.</p>
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		<title>By: kevinc</title>
		<link>http://hayesdavis.net/2008/05/21/serving-the-social-graph-and-keeping-the-lights-on-what-facebook-and-myspace-have-in-common-with-the-power-company/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>kevinc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many users are really looking to get additional value from their social networks?  Aren&#039;t they really just looking to do social stuff?  It seems to me that you have to upsell the additional value.

Twitter, for instance, is a pure social network with no real frills.  People flock to it, or don&#039;t, based on the core functionality.  I think Facebook is pretty much the same, even though it has more to offer if you opt in.

Facebook won&#039;t be a &quot;utility&quot; until its users start thinking of it that way.  I need power, water, and internet to do things I care about.  I need social networking ... to be sold things?  In other words there&#039;s a reason it&#039;s called &quot;face book&quot; and it has nothing to do with the utility aspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many users are really looking to get additional value from their social networks?  Aren&#8217;t they really just looking to do social stuff?  It seems to me that you have to upsell the additional value.</p>
<p>Twitter, for instance, is a pure social network with no real frills.  People flock to it, or don&#8217;t, based on the core functionality.  I think Facebook is pretty much the same, even though it has more to offer if you opt in.</p>
<p>Facebook won&#8217;t be a &#8220;utility&#8221; until its users start thinking of it that way.  I need power, water, and internet to do things I care about.  I need social networking &#8230; to be sold things?  In other words there&#8217;s a reason it&#8217;s called &#8220;face book&#8221; and it has nothing to do with the utility aspect.</p>
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